Should Poor People Get Free Eye and Dental Care?

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Updated: 2/21/2011 7:25 am
Rochester, N.Y. – Yessenia Troche and her son need glasses. They went to the Anthony Jordan Health Center, where 70 percent of the patients are poor and on Medicaid.

“If I couldn't come here, I wouldn't have anywhere else to go, because my doctors are here at Jordan,” Troche said.

“If they cut the services, there's a lot of people that wouldn't have anywhere to go. They need this resource here,” Troche said.

New York is one of few states offering eye care to Medicaid patients. The state’s county executives, crushed by growing Medicaid expenses, recommended to the governor that optometry, adult dental and podiatry services be scaled back or eliminated.

The federal government considers those services “optional.” The suggestions were contained in a mandate relief report compiled by the New York State Association of Counties.

Erie County Executive Chris Collins, speaking out against the cost of Medicaid, suggested last month that all poor people could afford eyeglasses.

New York spends more on Medicaid that any other state, even though it is not the most populous. Governor Andrew Cuomo proposed cutting more than $2 billion from Medicaid, but hasn't provided specifics. He is waiting to hear back from a panel commissioned to find savings.

“I don't know anyone who would consider their eyesight to be optional,” said Dr. Bridgette Wiefling, who runs Jordan.

Dr. Wiefling said cutting preventative care would lead to costly emergency room visits. She said the proposal would be devastating to her patients.

“Our patients are not choosing between getting eyeglasses and buying a house or a car. They're choosing between getting food on the table and buying glasses,” she said.

But counties say Medicaid is a huge burden. In Monroe County, more than 130,000 people are on Medicaid. More than 100 county employees help administer the $151 million program. Forty cents of every sales tax dollar goes to support Medicaid.

Monroe County Executive Maggie Brooks is among the county executives calling for reform and is on the governor’s Medicaid panel. She said at a hearing last month, “The underlying message is Medicaid is important to the people who need it. Counties want to be at the table to help redesign the program so it's cost effective, as well as effective in serving people."

“New York State is in a budget crisis for a whole lot more reasons than podiatry or optometry or dental,” said Dr. Wiefling. She said the state should focus on Medicaid’s administrative costs and most expensive programs.
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adidaslogo6 - 2/21/2011 11:15 AM
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I understand that some people have it just a little tougher then others. But the fact is: Eye-care and Dental are expensive. PERIOD. If you offer this service to one, offer to all. Or discounted or otherwise, making it fairly even. I'm 23 years old, I work fulltime, have been for 5 years, and started working when I was 15..it's tough! When I was old enough to worry about my own insurance, oh my! It's almost unaffordable. My parents still have to help me with the cost. Q-Dental has their own financial plans for those who do not have dental included in their insurance policy and for much less. Only get the coverage you need for the procedure. Seems easy enough to me. I understand both opinions from both sides. But it comes down to; we live in hard times again. money is tight for EVERYONE! Worse for others...give an incentive to all. Maybe not the exact amount that medicaid does, but enough.

Stop the Red - 2/21/2011 10:54 AM
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Carol from Holley, I have been there making min. wage supporting a family of three. I worked two jobs, just to make ends barely meet, eating PB&J and pork and beans daily. My neighbor upstairs who was on welfare was cooking steaks and eat better that my family, and I was and still am paying taxes. The system is broken because individuals like yourself, don't want to take the hardline and stop giving to those who don't really need it. Carol, if you have children or younger family members and this doesn't stop, they will have to pay for it (poor financial “giving’s”) and their quality of life will be much worst that you or I have had it. Let start by filtering out who really needs what and go from there.

CArolD - 2/21/2011 10:28 AM
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I think that anyone is employed or otherwwise, should be able to get health insurance. Some people cannot work because of health reasons who are in need of this free service and others who do work, maybe cannot afford insurance, because of only part time employment and do not make enough to pay for insurance. Having health insurance for eye, dental and perscriptions are a must. With this insurance it also brings high self esteem such as: if you fo for an interwiew you will not get hoired if you cannot see or can smile to greet the public for whatever job they are applying for. I think that this free insurance should be given to the needy and who can prove their lack of income. If the ones who complain about paying for other people, should put theirselves in their shoes, what would they do if this were them?? Carol, Holley, N Y

rock00 - 2/21/2011 9:16 AM
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why should everybody else pay taxes so they get the insurance.where my husband works he has 2 pay for insurance and co pays which is ridiculas. i think they should evaluate more households on where the money from the system is being spent on b/c they have more stuff then the ppl that work. i only work on substituting but my husband works hard and we make 2 much 4 a household of 3 and cant get any help with anything b/c they go by gross income not what we bring home. since we pay in the state we should be elgible 2. drug and alcohol testing along with them checking on where the money goes should be checked every three months and if the are buying nails and anything other then shelter ,heat and electric. they should cancel there cases.

Stop the Red - 2/21/2011 8:45 AM
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Tax payer, sorry should have proof read

Stop the Red - 2/21/2011 8:44 AM
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We should have the average tax pay decide who get what, when and how much. Like Jury duty, tax payers should be given the opportunity to decide where their tax dollars are going. I think the majority of people on public assistance do not deserve or should not be receiving anything. Get a job and push education. These children are seeing generation after generation living off the system and it needs to stop. I am all for giving medical and financial support to those who truly need it, but “we” the tax payers should have a say in it.

cgonnoud - 2/21/2011 8:31 AM
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Another flaw in America, no compassion for our fellow citizen. But, when it comes to Humanitarian aid to other Countries of the World, we have no problem donating or sending it out. How many of you people who posted here gave Money to the earthquake victims of Haiti? But, when it comes to our own poor and unfortunate, they are lazy, not willing to work, etc people who deserve nothing.

karynlynn - 2/21/2011 7:15 AM
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My family has been medically challenged for the past couple of years and we have faced limiting doctor visits, arguing with bill collectors and cutting pills in half. The comments here all question if people deserve treatment - I believe that all children deserve health care - including eye care and dental services. Our experience with the cost of health care leads me to wonder if analysis of the health care system would not reveal ways to reduce the costs. If government, the medical care field and insurance companies worked together to negotiate for a better ecomony of scale, maybe all of us could afford to live healthier. I have a front tooth that broke and an uncomfortable temporary fix - with my dental insurance - I can not afford the permanent fix. While I have been waiting the cost is 50% higher - that is out of control inflation. If we all got together and worked with the poor to reduce costs, rather than create a us versus them attitude - we could accomplish needed reduction in costs.

notinmycity - 2/21/2011 7:15 AM
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Sorry I work 40 hours and week and can't afford the thousands I need to put into dental work. No, free rides

RochesterWatch - 2/21/2011 6:55 AM
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We can argue (however civilly) about who who is abusing the syste vs. who deserves to get free this or free that, but that whole discussion misses the point. Lets assume there is zero abuse (which is wildly untrue) and zero waste (also a fairy tale). It's still anathema to liberty and repugnant to our Constitution, which makes it illigitimate. The fact remains that these "free" services require that government take money from one group of citizens by force of law (and ultimately at the barrel of a gun) and give it to another group. The fact is that government takes far too much for far too many things that fall way outside of its Constitutional mandate. Even the power-drunken government itself is realizing this to some extent. Ultimately, it's not about "deserve". There is a lot of true poverty and suffering in the world. Doesn't some child in the 3rd world, born under circumstances he cannot control, deserve to live half as well as the poorest folks in this country? Well, he can't. You could tax everyone who had anything more than anyone else until everyone was dirt poor and the world would still be full of poverty and suffering. So you have to draw a line somewhere. And where you draw it is based on principle, not "need", because it is both the right thing to do and the only thing you really can. Want to help more? Give charitably. Charity isn't something that is taken from you by the tax man.
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